Daniel Kocot, Head of API Consulting at codecentric AG
I actually, um, I'm a native back end developer. Did a lot of stuff in, uh, in, in the past, in, in, in the backend building services, building APIs. Then, um, I get into stuff on the software lifecycle management, doing a lot of Atlassian stuff. That brought me to code centric doing actually things around software lifecycle development. But that was actually not the case with, with the Atlassian software. So everybody wanted, wanted to integrate it. And that was the final thing because I did it earlier in the past doing, doing integration, no stuff all the time. But at that time it was really putting things into contexts where normally Atlassian has no plugins available or something like that, building integrations for customers directly. And that was actually the starting point. All the good Atlassian stuff running on prem, not the things in the cloud anymore. So I'm quite actually off with the whole topic because at some level when you know the whole data model of the Atlassian software, which is quite enormous when you see it on paper, printed on a really big paper sheet, and you know what is actually happening there and you know what customers are doing with it. Actually in their context, it's quite hard. It needed integration all over the time and, and bring people to the, to the right spot to, to make it actually doing the right things there. So that was, that was actually one of the starting points. And then I went into consultancy with MuleSoft at CodeCentric, which was not one of my favorite things in the, in, in the end, because. When you have a customer who brought a product and is going deeply with the product without understanding what actually APIs and integrational stuff really means, or what is the whole intent of, of having a software suite, like, like, like Nukesoft available, that that's not, not a real point. So I switched really into the, into the topic, into the scene. And that, that was a starting point. So around 2017, 2019. That was the real starting point. And it hit me when I was in the U S in 2019 at the first, I think, or the second Kong summit, and that was the final part that really hit me hard and said, okay, this is what you want to do for a long time now, and now being in the field for nearly six, seven years with, with one topic, which is really a good thing to do and re and really seeing stuff from the past now happening in, in, in reality.
